November WBTNI CLG South meeting notes

Another Community Liaison Group meeting for the WBTNI has been and gone. A lot of new faces attended the south CLG meeting, primarily they were made up of WBTNI and/or government people and a few that could not make the first meeting. What follows is the WBBAG account of what was presented and discussed.

An early issue was raised regarding CLG member contact details. The concern was that of making available details of CLG members to the public, particularly contact details.

The WBTNI Project manager spoke first. Covered the amendments to the draft TOR, the revised milestones, particularly the time frame for publishing options, which was previously late 2007 and is now April 2008.

The new state transport Minister has given his full support to the project and instructed the WBTNI to "look at everything".

Discussed the "missing link" that is prevalent in the media at the moment. Most seem to consider the Northern Link Tunnel the missing link. Also touched on the Airport Link project in this conversation.

After the completion of the WBTNI, if it is determined that a Western Brisbane Bypass is required, route selection will take approximately 2 years.

The Connect West Manager followed with a long presentation covering a lot of statistics and project structure details. Hopefully these details will be made available in some form through the WBTNI website soon.

Of particular interest was a slide on trip end densities. The data showed that exiting trip counts for an Ipswich/Caboolture route were very low when compared to the north/south and cross CBD trips counts.

Then we got into some more statistics:

  • Public Transport is responsible for 5% of all trips in SEQ
  • and 15% of all trips within the Brisbane CBD.

Statistics for peak hour "per person" trips ending in the CBD:

  • 50% are by car.
  • 40% are by public transport.
  • 10% are by cycle and/or walking.

A Traffic planner then gave some details on usage, and talked about the 10:30:50 rule:

  • 10% of all trips are less than 1 km.
  • 30% of all trips are less than 3 km.
  • 50% of all trips are less than 5 km.

For 2006 in Brisbane, 77% of car trips were less than 10km. Of this 77%, 47% could have been completely using more environmentally friendly modes like cycling, public transport and walking.

Within Brisbane, commuters spends on average 1 hour a day travelling, and the average total trip is 27kms. This is on par with other cities throughout the world with similar technologies to Brisbane.

The existing situation with Brisbane trips:

  • mode share is low.
  • radial demand.
  • Transport is geared towards journeys (office/work/school).
  • buses and rail overcrowded in peak hours.
  • growth constrained by bus and rail.
  • high demand for parking at stations.
  • limited services crossing regional demand.
  • buses are stuck on congested roads.

The existing situation with Brisbane roads:

  • north south demand is high
  • commuters clog radial roads
  • congestion in the peak hour periods at poor intersections
  • Buses sit in traffic
  • safety issues
  • limited control on access from properties

The existing issues facing Cyclists and Walkers

  • obstructions by street furniture
  • few end trip facilities
  • poor signage and info
  • on road facilities are discontinuous

Priority 1 routes include the gateway arterial.
Priority 2 routes include centenary highway.

CLG member discussion followed with topics including noise, toll avoidance, increased public transport, cost of public transport v. roads, smart cards, peak oil, the modelling process and it's flexibility, spreading peak hour, CBD charges, car less CBD and more.

The next CLG meeting will be in February 2008.